Comments on: Sony: No plans To Bring Back Backwards Compatibility http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/ The HipHop and Gaming Authority Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:38:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gio http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-12401 Gio Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:15:29 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-12401 Don't you just love Phony-Sony's New slogan for the PS3 Slim... "It does everything" yeah, except play Sony made PS2 games! The advert slogan should read: " Sony PS3 Doesn't play PS2 games that you already bought from us, so buy, buy, buy Uncharted 2 ... Surprised. And another thing: "early odopters" with BC can go suck it, you upperclass bastards. Why does Sony Entertainment Still REFUSE to put back in BC for the common people! FUCK Sony and their PR department Don’t you just love Phony-Sony’s New slogan for the PS3 Slim…
“It does everything” yeah, except play Sony made PS2 games!

The advert slogan should read: ” Sony PS3 Doesn’t play PS2 games that you already bought from us, so buy, buy, buy Uncharted 2 … Surprised.

And another thing: “early odopters” with BC can go suck it, you upperclass bastards. Why does Sony Entertainment Still REFUSE to put back in BC for the common people! FUCK Sony and their PR department

]]> By: Laura http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-11830 Laura Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:56:05 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-11830 The only reason why I continued to by the Sony gaming systems was because of its backwards compatibility. There have been so many other new systems available in the last few years, and I have chosen Sony over them all. But now I see no reason to stay loyal to a company that changes one of its product's best redeeming features. Screw Sony, I'm switching to Xbox. The only reason why I continued to by the Sony gaming systems was because of its backwards compatibility. There have been so many other new systems available in the last few years, and I have chosen Sony over them all. But now I see no reason to stay loyal to a company that changes one of its product’s best redeeming features. Screw Sony, I’m switching to Xbox.

]]> By: BigMike http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10888 BigMike Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:25:30 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-10888 217 ps2 games to be exact. N i would appreciate if i had a reliable next gen system to count on, when the time comes to play em.. SONY, IM CALLING YOU OUT!! SUPPORT THE CLASSICS!! 217 ps2 games to be exact. N i would appreciate if i had a reliable next gen system to count on, when the time comes to play em.. SONY, IM CALLING YOU OUT!! SUPPORT THE CLASSICS!!

]]> By: BigMike http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10887 BigMike Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:22:12 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-10887 217 ps2 games to be exact. N it would help tremendously if i had a reliable next gen system to count on, when it comes time to em. SONY, IM CALLIN YOU OUT!! SUPPORT THE CLASSICS!! 217 ps2 games to be exact. N it would help tremendously if i had a reliable next gen system to count on, when it comes time to em. SONY, IM CALLIN YOU OUT!! SUPPORT THE CLASSICS!!

]]> By: BigMike http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-10886 BigMike Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:18:56 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-10886 i dont think i should pay for two systems that have the potential to do the same thing. Its absolutley pointless. If sony expects to keep loyal fans and consumers, then sony needs to learn to appreciate and support the fans. I personally own hundreds of ps2 games, n have been saving for a new ps3. However the reverse compatability issues are upsetting me. I have Boycott all my sony merchandise. Why pay so much for a ps3 that dont play any REAL sony games. I understand sony wishes to move on to next gen games. I do not believe that path should include neglecting the support of classic sony games. To truly be "Next Gen" they should take into account that having a system capable of playing nearly anything weather old, or new can be just as revolutionary as the introduction of new formulas for gameplay. It can bring more support to sonys cause if they agree to support the classics. i dont think i should pay for two systems that have the potential to do the same thing. Its absolutley pointless. If sony expects to keep loyal fans and consumers, then sony needs to learn to appreciate and support the fans. I personally own hundreds of ps2 games, n have been saving for a new ps3. However the reverse compatability issues are upsetting me. I have Boycott all my sony merchandise. Why pay so much for a ps3 that dont play any REAL sony games. I understand sony wishes to move on to next gen games. I do not believe that path should include neglecting the support of classic sony games. To truly be “Next Gen” they should take into account that having a system capable of playing nearly anything weather old, or new can be just as revolutionary as the introduction of new formulas for gameplay. It can bring more support to sonys cause if they agree to support the classics.

]]> By: Silvio6 http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-7487 Silvio6 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:36:01 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-7487 Ok, good news. Who cares, when we all want new high definition exciting games ? I think the one who care most are the people who have illegal copies of ps2 games, dreaming to use them on a ps3 .. Well, buy a ps2 for that, it is so cheap nowadays. Ok, good news.

Who cares, when we all want new high definition exciting games ?

I think the one who care most are the people who have illegal copies of ps2 games, dreaming to use them on a ps3 ..

Well, buy a ps2 for that, it is so cheap nowadays.

]]> By: Chadrick http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-13323 Chadrick Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:01:45 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-13323 When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.<br><br>I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want??? When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.

I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want???

]]> By: Chadrick http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-13324 Chadrick Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:01:11 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-13324 When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.<br><br>I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want??? When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.

I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want???

]]> By: Chadrick http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-6151 Chadrick Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:01:45 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-6151 When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.<br><br>I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want??? When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.

I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want???

]]> By: Chadrick http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-6152 Chadrick Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:01:11 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-6152 When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.<br><br>I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want??? When the PS2 came out, I sold my PSX to help pay for it since I could still play all of my PSX games. And I'm sure alot of people do that. With the still steep price of the PS3, and popularity of the PS2, it would be nice if you could do the same thing. More people would consider buying PS3.

I, on the other hand, don't have a PS2 because of hurricane Ike. I still have a bunch of PSX and PS2 games I haven't beaten yet (heck, I haven't even opened FFXII yet). But at the same time, I want a PS3. So which do you think I'm gonna to go with first: The $100 system I already have 30 [good] games for, and tons of others I can buy for as little as $5, or the $500 system that I have no games for, and will have pay $60 each for the few games I would want???

]]> By: CkVega http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-6044 CkVega Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:13:21 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-6044 I'm now thinking of buying a PS3, lack of backwards compatibility is a problem for me, I already got 3 consoles (Xbox360, ps2, Wii) and a PC hooked up to my TV; would have been nice to have just moved the ps2 away. Meh, guess I need to buy a hdmi splitter or something. I’m now thinking of buying a PS3, lack of backwards compatibility is a problem for me, I already got 3 consoles (Xbox360, ps2, Wii) and a PC hooked up to my TV; would have been nice to have just moved the ps2 away.
Meh, guess I need to buy a hdmi splitter or something.

]]> By: Captain Falcon http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5489 Captain Falcon Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:50:17 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5489 This is dumb. Really. There're a lot of people who would buy the PS3 if it would have backward compatibility. That sucks. If they're REALLY not planning on bringing back backward compatibility, they should AT LEAST drop the price. Sony seams to forget that the backward compatibility was one of the main reasons why so many people bought the PS2... This is dumb.
Really.

There’re a lot of people who would buy the PS3 if it would have backward compatibility.

That sucks.

If they’re REALLY not planning on bringing back backward compatibility, they should AT LEAST drop the price.

Sony seams to forget that the backward compatibility was one of the main reasons why so many people bought the PS2…

]]> By: Randy Ledet Jr. http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5282 Randy Ledet Jr. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:40:41 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5282 Fmills u dont want it, I promise. You should just try to be my friend :-) Fmills u dont want it, I promise. You should just try to be my friend :-)

]]> By: hiryu http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5280 hiryu Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:30 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5280 If there are no plans of PS2 bacward compability for what reason Sony maked survey with PS2 backward option ?! It was one of the most voted options and what? It's not even in plans!! SONY for what puropse do u ask us since u don't give a sh!t about our choices ?! If there are no plans of PS2 bacward compability for what reason Sony maked survey with PS2 backward option ?!
It was one of the most voted options and what?
It’s not even in plans!!
SONY for what puropse do u ask us since u don’t give a sh!t about our choices ?!

]]> By: Fplus http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5278 Fplus Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:28:41 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5278 Well great. Sony likes taking Big dump on your chest. While Microsoft make billions and keeps giving their users what they want. For... Free Well great. Sony likes taking Big dump on your chest. While Microsoft make billions and keeps giving their users what they want. For… Free

]]> By: HitmanAgent47 http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5274 HitmanAgent47 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:12:49 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5274 Lol, WTF, HIGH QUALITY GAMES GT5 DEMO AND PACIFIC RIFT? 82% AVERAGELY ON GAMERANKINGS, SAME WITH 87% RESISTANCE 2, MEDIOCRE. WITH SUCH LOW QUALITY NOT AAA GAMES IT'S TIME TO BRING BACK BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY. I LOST MY 60 GIG PS3 TO THE YELLOW LIGHT OF DEATH AND NOW I HAVE THIS NEWER SKU INSTEAD, NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILTY, A HUGE MISTAKE. Lol, WTF, HIGH QUALITY GAMES GT5 DEMO AND PACIFIC RIFT? 82% AVERAGELY ON GAMERANKINGS, SAME WITH 87% RESISTANCE 2, MEDIOCRE.

WITH SUCH LOW QUALITY NOT AAA GAMES IT’S TIME TO BRING BACK BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY. I LOST MY 60 GIG PS3 TO THE YELLOW LIGHT OF DEATH AND NOW I HAVE THIS NEWER SKU INSTEAD, NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILTY, A HUGE MISTAKE.

]]> By: David Macphail http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5273 David Macphail Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:47:50 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5273 I'm assuming they'll bring PS2 emulation to the PS3 once the PS2 is officially laid to rest. I’m assuming they’ll bring PS2 emulation to the PS3 once the PS2 is officially laid to rest.

]]> By: xino http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5272 xino Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:06:14 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5272 For goodness sake man! I need to play God of War, Tekken and Devil May cry! (killzone too). Well..if they will drop the backwards thing, then reduce the farking price for the ps3!!! For goodness sake man!

I need to play God of War, Tekken and Devil May cry! (killzone too).

Well..if they will drop the backwards thing, then reduce the farking price for the ps3!!!

]]> By: fmills15 http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5271 fmills15 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:51 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5271 come on seven hog. pages and pages was more like one thread. we can call of the peace treaty and go at it for old time sakes. come on seven hog. pages and pages was more like one thread. we can call of the peace treaty and go at it for old time sakes.

]]> By: Mark http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5270 Mark Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:36:13 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5270 PS2 compatibility was a reward for early adopters. If you missed the train, you need to get over it an move on, there are far too many great PS3 games this year you will be missing out on otherwise. PS2 compatibility was a reward for early adopters. If you missed the train, you need to get over it an move on, there are far too many great PS3 games this year you will be missing out on otherwise.

]]> By: b-cro http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5269 b-cro Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:29:15 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5269 I know a few 30,000 people who would go back and play SOCOM 2 if it (A) wasn't ruined by code 9 and (B) was available to be played on PS3 or could be DL'd from the PS Store I know a few 30,000 people who would go back and play SOCOM 2 if it (A) wasn’t ruined by code 9 and (B) was available to be played on PS3 or could be DL’d from the PS Store

]]> By: Randy Ledet Jr. http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5268 Randy Ledet Jr. Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:34:56 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5268 Yo when this dude come out of hiding damn i miss the days i use to clown yo ass for pages and pages. Welcome to TheKoalition.com Yo when this dude come out of hiding damn i miss the days i use to clown yo ass for pages and pages.

Welcome to TheKoalition.com

]]> By: fmills15. http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5267 fmills15. Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:18:40 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5267 they making mad profit from ps2 system sales compared to ps3's. its hard for them to sabatage that just yet. they making mad profit from ps2 system sales compared to ps3’s. its hard for them to sabatage that just yet.

]]> By: Gary A Swaby http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5265 Gary A Swaby Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:27:18 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5265 Swiffs rant and the co-op will be interesting this week. Swiffs rant and the co-op will be interesting this week.

]]> By: spookula209 http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5263 spookula209 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:58:00 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5263 I know people get mad but this is the next gen. Its nice to be able to play ps2 games on your ps3 but come on man. with all the new games out keep your ps2 and plug it in when u get the itch. It may suck but at least u can still play em. I got a 60gb and I dont even play ps2 games. Last ps2 game I played was gow3 and mgs3 when I first got the ps3 and there were no games. I got a nice collection of psn and blu ray games now . Come on everybody, move on. keep your ps2 just like some people keep their nintendos or segas. Sony invented bc now its biting them in the azz! nothin else ever had bc b4 ps1 I know people get mad but this is the next gen. Its nice to be able to play ps2 games on your ps3 but come on man. with all the new games out keep your ps2 and plug it in when u get the itch. It may suck but at least u can still play em. I got a 60gb and I dont even play ps2 games. Last ps2 game I played was gow3 and mgs3 when I first got the ps3 and there were no games. I got a nice collection of psn and blu ray games now . Come on everybody, move on. keep your ps2 just like some people keep their nintendos or segas. Sony invented bc now its biting them in the azz! nothin else ever had bc b4 ps1

]]> By: Juan Jovi http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5261 Juan Jovi Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:54:29 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5261 man, i was playing Timesplitters 3 the other day with some friends. there are some games that people still go back and play to this day. Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3, Socom, and even KILLZONE 1! atleast offer the most popular titles online like microsoft. man, i was playing Timesplitters 3 the other day with some friends. there are some games that people still go back and play to this day. Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3, Socom, and even KILLZONE 1! atleast offer the most popular titles online like microsoft.

]]> By: Randy Ledet Jr. http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5260 Randy Ledet Jr. Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:53:16 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5260 Damn I was hoping they did this shit! Now i gotta come up with a different way to go through the whole God Of War story before 3 comes out! Damn I was hoping they did this shit! Now i gotta come up with a different way to go through the whole God Of War story before 3 comes out!

]]> By: jjjj http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5259 jjjj Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:50:26 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5259 waaaaaaaaaaaa made me cry ar well maybe 1 day stil ashame:( all thoses classics gone 2 waist waaaaaaaaaaaa made me cry ar well maybe 1 day stil ashame:( all thoses classics gone 2 waist

]]> By: A.B. Frasier http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5258 A.B. Frasier Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:22:54 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5258 moral of the story...dont put the ps2 in the closet yet. but then again who still plays there ps2. if your a die hard ps3 owner chances are your more concerned about the titles he listed moral of the story…dont put the ps2 in the closet yet. but then again who still plays there ps2. if your a die hard ps3 owner chances are your more concerned about the titles he listed

]]> By: Donnie B http://www.thekoalition.com/sony-no-plans-to-bring-back-backwards-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-5257 Donnie B Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:13:07 +0000 http://www.thekoalition.com/?p=6118#comment-5257 Honestly...fuck Sony for this.. Honestly…fuck Sony for this..

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